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Default Topsail Sound - Critique Please - 07-21-2010, 12:49 PM



This is a progression of a personal project I'm working on. The source photo and former WIP are below. I would really love some feedback. I am trying to make this painting as photo real as possible. That being said, I know the moon is huge. I want to keep the fantastic element to it.

Also, at the moment, I am especially curious about cloud volume and placement. Earlier I had more clouds in the shot, but as I work I have taken some out of the right because I thought it was too busy. I thought they were forming strained tangents. Just curious if anybody had any insights and suggestions on this.



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Default 07-22-2010, 02:06 AM

I think, even for a 'fantasy' scene, that you've pushed the scale of the moon a bit (lot?) too far. You could probably get away with 200-300% scale, and the scene would still look believeable. 500% and it would start to look odd. You've gone for (by my reckoning) about 1000 - 1200%.

Of course, is you were painting an alien planet, the moon can be as big as you want - it's your planet, and you can make the rules! But this is clearly OUR moon - we are used to seeing it, and have (to some extent) an instinctual grasp of it's scale.

I think a smaller moon would work better in any case - the ship is a little lost at the moment, and if it was haloed by a smaller moon, it might make it stand out for us. You would then have a nice reflection trail in the water, which would also lead our eyes to the ship.

I can't remember who told me this rule of thumb, but it a good one.

Normal size = reality
Double size = fantasy
Four times = surreal
Eight times = stupid

Your scene as it currently stands will NEVER look real, and worrying about cloud placement is not really an issue at all.


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Default 07-22-2010, 06:07 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I was curious about the size of the moon even during the concept phase. I think I was kind of in love with the alien moon feel, but you're right, the context doesn't make a lot of sense with our planet and our moon. Sometimes I get stuck on an idea when I might be better off to get unstuck instead. Thanks again.
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Default 07-22-2010, 08:24 AM

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Normal size = reality
Double size = fantasy
Four times = surreal
Eight times = stupid
lol. Best rule of thumb ever. :-D


And I think Alex has some other good ideas there too. Body of the ship is now disappearing to the land while masts are clearly visible against the moon.

You could also let the moon illuminate surrounding clouds so the "light" area would be quite large even with the smaller moon. Especially if you are going for the fantasy. It has tiny hint of "monkey island" in it so even surreal might do. ;-) arrrr! pirates!
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Default Queen Anne's Revisions - 07-23-2010, 11:16 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

Here is an updated version with a smaller moon and some differnet highlights added to the water and to the ship. Do this help it look more realistic?

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Default 07-23-2010, 08:39 PM

Nice improvement.

Watch out for the highlight on the near (shadow) side of the FG island. I think it would be darker and probably reflect in the water.

Other than that, it's a sweet image.
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Default 07-26-2010, 11:25 AM

Thanks Kurt. I agree.
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Default better - 07-30-2010, 10:16 AM

yes, fix that island and you'll have a nice image here.

I've been to topsail sound many times
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Default 09-13-2010, 07:42 PM

I love Topsail Island...I just noticed that you said you have visited there. Very cool place.
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