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cameo

07-02-2005, 05:16 PM

Can't wait to see this film. Spielberg has directed some of my favourite films so I'm pretty sure this is in safe hands. I take it ILM was the chief effects provider then Rick?

B. Kachel

07-02-2005, 05:50 PM

I agree Rick. I have already seen the movie 3 times.

-Brandon

rrische

07-02-2005, 07:44 PM

Yes, as far as I know, ILM did all the effects.
A very tough show, with a very short schedule.

The work is absolutely jaw-dropping. Watching it,
you forget it's visual effects.

ecsdesign

07-02-2005, 09:31 PM

Agreed, especially the seemless vfx in the car on the freeway, i didnt realise till i thought about it.
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DMPjedi

07-02-2005, 11:23 PM

My dad and I were discussing that shot. It's CG as it dollies around the car right? Perfect morph. Anyone here at MPO work on the film? Fantastic VFX indeed!

Boof

07-05-2005, 09:51 PM

Totally thought vfx rocked! I saw it opening day and was blown away, but now hearing friends and others commenting on it being just ok. Everyone keeps comparing to independence day....and I'm like this one is so much better.
I agree Rick, this is some of ILMs best work....just had a great sense of realism. And a nice darker movie for Spielberg.
escdesign/DMP Jedi....the camera dolly around car was great but actually only shot that really stuck out as VFX. My friends and I while at theater turned to each other at same moment to say wait a second...which is bad cuz you do notice it.
Still a rocking movie, this with Batman have been some GOOD summer films already.

DMPjedi

07-06-2005, 05:17 PM

I guess you're right on the dolly shot. I guess the only reason I guessed it was a CG morph was because it kinda looked like it. I'll have to see it again. Plus, how else would you pull that off safely? One of my favorite shots was the footage shot by the news crew of the tripods walking across the city, vaporizing everything. Is there anything ILM can't do? :P

rblitz7

07-06-2005, 06:44 PM

that matte was really awsome when Tom was looking over that hill at all that red vine stuff.

onewaymotorway

07-07-2005, 11:05 AM

yea the vsfx were amazing. I think this and King Kong will be the best visual effects this year

MoonDog

07-07-2005, 11:21 AM

Actually, the thing that got me about that circular car dolly shot is that there was absolutely nothing that gave it away as being an effect other than the fact that it was physically impossible to shoot it live. Even similar shots in WHAT LIES BENEATH have a few telltale givaways as being CG - whereas this just looked rock solid real (despite the impossible camera move). They cover about two pages of rapid, frantic dialoge in that shot - all without a visual cut - which also justified it dramatically as edits would have really lessened the impact of that "world spinning out of control" feeling the scene has...

My two cents anyway.

Great movie. Spielberg in his A-game, showing the Bays and Emmerichs of the world how it should be done. (And I actually like a lot of Bay's and Emmerich's films - but you can just tell that Spielberg is miles ahead of everyone else making summer blockbusters).

bcottman

07-07-2005, 11:46 AM

I believe that whole shot of the car on the highway is a 2.5 minute continous fx shot. not quite sure what extent was fx (ie model cars/ live action etc) but i believe the actors were only on a blue screen.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/waroftheworldsnews.php?id=10193

smooth

07-30-2005, 10:13 AM

saw this yesterday and I must agree that the visual effects were amazing. I think it couldve used a better score (music) I found that lacked bigtime. The story was sub par and leaves alot of questions unanswered and I was surprised at the ending. Very good visual effects though. Best Ive seen I think. The sounds those tripods made really added to the fear.
I think ill be picking up the book. Havnt read it yet and I'm sure I'll understand more when I read it.
What was the time of production from pre - to post?

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DMPjedi

07-30-2005, 10:28 AM

The first time the tripods made that sound, I was reminded of Close Encounters :P

rrische

07-30-2005, 02:47 PM

Production started in November for June 29 release.

That sound the tripods make is chilling and brilliant!
It's a (I'm going to massacre the spelling of this word!)
Dijeradoo. The aboriginal wind instrument. Am I even
close on spelling??:-)

rrische

07-30-2005, 03:14 PM

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1402/aliensfx63vu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2369/aliensfx52or.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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brad

07-30-2005, 05:05 PM

agree, jaw dropping is the right phrase...

renderizer

07-30-2005, 06:12 PM

Rick...you're right - the spelling is way off, but this seems to be a common problem with people trying to spell 'didgeridoo' (just took a look at a CD I have, just in case).

Anway, are you sure it's a didgeridoo at all? I thought it's a fog horn (if that's the right word).

All that aside, I absolutely loved the FX (didn't like Mr. Cruise's peformance, though) - they helped to bring across that sense of utter panic...

07-30-2005, 07:25 PM

I'm probably one of the few that haven't been out to see the movie yet. I can't wait to check it out.

Aside from that though, the sound you mention being like close encounters. That would make sense since CE3K was pretty much Spielberg's first big directorial break in '77 second to JAWS in '75.

I would guess that it's kind of an homage to his first sci-fi hit that typically only the 'old-schoolers' would get.

Also, I was almost fooled the other night at the video store when I saw WOTW on DVD. But it was an earlier, seemingly more independent release. This always seems to happen. Anyone know if this indy version is any good?

rrische

07-30-2005, 09:58 PM

I just read an article in Variety with Richard King, sound
designer on the movie. He talks about finding the sound
for the tripods by taking a "less is more" attitude with
the soundtrack. They had tried all kinds of complicated
sounds, and the overly complex result sounded messy
and, more importantly, not scary. He stripped it all off
and went with a 2 note blast from a didgeridoo. He
then did a light bit of treatment on it so it wasn't so
recognizable, and there it is. Otherworldly and perfect.
"Keep it simple". Good advice for sound design and
visual effects as well.

DMPjedi

07-30-2005, 10:09 PM

Cool, I agree the sound was brilliant. It was just after reading these articles about Spielberg going away from the cute and cuddly aliens (BTW I love CE3K), then hearing that tone. I coulda swore those were the same as the first two tones in CE3K :P I wish I had a camera on hand, I'd like to try out the effect of the 'death ray + person = big mess' :twisted:

Audrius

08-03-2005, 09:49 AM

Hi Rick,
yes I agree, this is a perfect job. Why didn't you take part in it?

rrische

08-03-2005, 11:25 AM

Cuz I'm no longer at ILM :wink:

rrische

08-05-2005, 10:40 PM

I just saw this again, tonight. And in case anyone's
wondering, it's still amazing.

Go see this before it leaves the theaters. Best film of the summer.

cserbuj

08-06-2005, 12:59 AM

wow, Rick, with your words, i have to go to see it....another master piece of ILM, for sure.....;)

Blendesign

08-30-2005, 07:50 AM

i found it's the best VFX film since LOTR trilogy....
fantastics FX, matte, etc...
the story is great, Tom C. make a great performance !
and sounds FX : wouahhhh !!! so good !

a really "must have" in collector DVD version :-)))
( i hope there are some good bonus about the making off and vfx )

onewaymotorway

08-31-2005, 09:32 PM

yea rick... i just saw it again recently and wow I'm still floored and just totally scared out of my mind!

Jay_Gladwell

09-01-2005, 04:45 AM

Rick, close, but no cigar. It's didgeridoo.

Dan

09-01-2005, 05:52 AM

anyone know if theres gonna be a sequel cus the whole movie was awesome eept the ending. leaves u craving for answers

rrische

09-01-2005, 08:51 AM

Jay- Thanks for the correction. We already figured out the spelling.
See above.

Dan- Don't look for a sequel because...

***SPOILER ALERT***

All the aliens are dead at the end.

Jay_Gladwell

09-01-2005, 08:55 AM

Oversight on my part, Rick, sorry!

Dan

09-02-2005, 04:01 PM

Jay- Thanks for the correction. We already figured out the spelling.
See above.

Dan- Don't look for a sequel because...

***SPOILER ALERT***

All the aliens are dead at the end.

*SPOILER***!!!!

i know they all died, but they might do it from someone else perspective like a soldier or something. meaning lots more battle scene ;)

Bartosz

10-08-2005, 02:59 AM

rrische

10-08-2005, 06:33 AM

I think he means a new, straight to video release that came out
just before Spielberg's version.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PW4D2/002-7838852-2818412?v=glance&n=130&s=dvd&v=glance

Spielberg's version hits DVD on November 22.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BD88YQ/002-7838852-2818412?v=glance&n=130&s=dvd&v=glance

Here's George Pal's 1953 version.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AOEMWS/002-7838852-2818412?v=glance&n=130&s=dvd&v=glance

Bartosz

10-08-2005, 12:24 PM

My bad. :oops:

Wizdoc

10-24-2005, 12:06 AM

Brilliant VFX work all around. I didn't even notice the impossible dolly shot when I watched the film in theatre. Only afterwards people were talking about it in forums about it - I was too caught up in the movie to even pay attention to that. An impressive feat as I consider myself to be a quite jaded moviegoer.

FX-wise, the other thing that struck me as cool was the matte painting of the destroyed city (as seen via the TV screen in the news van). Very evocative.

magic_mat

10-30-2005, 04:22 AM

Ive seen all of them apart from the very first, black and white version. (4 all together)

The new one is just WOW :shock:

The timothy hines film is just LAMO, ROFL, LOL. The CGI stuff looks like its CGI, its got that allways "shinnyness" about it (if anyone know what I mean!) got it on ebay for ?5

The old colour verion is OK.

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rrische

11-23-2005, 05:17 PM

The movie's out on DVD now. If you haven't seen it yet, now's
your chance!

******POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW*******

There's been discussion about the incredible 3 minute dolly shot,
but there's another cool, seamless shot earlier in the intersection
scene. It starts with a closeup of the blond woman running down
the street, follows Cruise as he ducks into a store, then runs out
a side door as all hell breaks loose behind him. He hides around
the corner of a building and watches as the tripod passes him and
moves off down the street. A combination of three different shots,
shot in three different locations, as well as layers and layers of
totally photoreal CG care of ILM. Amazing.

11-23-2005, 05:22 PM

I just bought the movie can't wait to watch it tonight ; )

smooth

11-23-2005, 05:35 PM

oooo...i know I can't wait to see it again. That sound they make was creepy.
Good work by the people at ILM definatly.
I wonder what they have in the special features.

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