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poje9
11-14-2008, 11:29 AM
Hello there!

I am a student at the Art Institute of Phoenix. I am working on a project of a UFO Crash. Here are a few stills from the WIP shot. The UFO is a miniature I built, about 15 inches in diameter. The second shot with the door I animated in stop motion, and shot an actor on green screen. It is a day for night shot, I painted the clouds and the dirt/rocks on the crash site. I included one of the original plates. Any feedback would be fantastic!!

Thank you so much!

Lisa

Original Plate (shot 1)
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/originalplate.jpg

Final composite/day for night (shot 1)
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/scene1-1.jpg

Final composite (shot 2)
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/scene2-1.jpg

lronman
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
do you see clouds at the night ?

Tholleyman
11-14-2008, 01:50 PM
Hi Lisa,
would you be able to post a better quality image, it looks interesting but I can't see it clearly enough to really comment.

Tim

poje9
11-14-2008, 03:07 PM
Sorry about that- I just uploaded the highest resolution I have of the complete shot. Hope this is better!

One more thing, the night shot is a full moon with the light source unblocked- That is why the clouds are visible.

Thanks!
Lisa

Tholleyman
11-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Hi Lisa,
Thats better! we can see them now :) They are looking good, I like the first image best. The trench behind the UFO is a great idea. At the moment I think you have lost a little of the depth that you had in the original daytime image. I think this is mainly a tonal problem. At the moment everything seems a bit light - I know its a full moon, but I still think you could push the tonal range a bit. I think you could perhaps work in some extra elements to help the composition, maybe a tree in the foreground in silhouette? it needs something just to help us focus more on the ship. Playing with the lights on the UFO and adding to the atmosphere would also help that.
Hope this helps

Tim

poje9
11-16-2008, 05:43 PM
I was trying to figure out how to make it look less flat. I'll work on that and then post an update.

Thank you so much for your help!

-Lisa

dstipes
11-19-2008, 01:10 AM
Hi Lisa,

The city lights would also be brighter.

David

metalrahul
11-19-2008, 06:25 PM
I was trying to figure out how to make it look less flat.
-Lisa

Maybe creating a pool of lights would help to add some depth in the second shot. You could manually paint it or try different blending modes for B&W noise layer and erase areas you don't want.

poje9
01-17-2009, 10:46 PM
It's been a while, but I have started to fix the first UFO matte painting. I added city lights, and a glow from the red lights on the ufo. The clouds are just a sketch for now, I need a lot of help with the clouds and I am think i am going to redo them completely, making them storm clouds.
I am also going to add some more foreground elements as suggested.

It is far from done thats for sure! I would love any suggestions!

Thanks,
Lisa

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/Scene1a.jpg

lukedesmith
01-20-2009, 10:22 PM
Nice work! My suggestions are for your second painting (the red one). I think your right about the storm clouds, they would really add a lot of mood to the shot. I don't really care for the hill in the foreground on the left though, it's boring and does nothing to frame the shot or carry the viewers eye. The city in the background should be lit by city lights and cast that glow on the sky as well. keep that in mind if you do decide to replace the sky. either way i feel like we should see more city lights than buildings. Well, that's the best I can come up with right now, I hope it helps. Good luck with this and I look forward to seeing your updates! :)

poje9
01-20-2009, 11:54 PM
Thanks! I am definitely not finished with the city lights, it was just a start. I am going to add more and also different colors (florescent etc.). I like the idea of getting rid of the mountain on the left, have thought about it before but never tried it. I am going to see where it takes me, I know I need to fix the composition so that it focuses more on the UFO.

Thanks for all of your help! Updates to come soon!!

Lisa

poje9
02-17-2009, 11:03 PM
Hey guys, Still working on the matte =) I added new clouds, more city lights and a glow to them, also more of a highlight on the UFO and the rocks from the moon light. Still thinking about what to do with the mountain on the left...

Suggestions are always welcome!

Thanks!
Lisa

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/Scene1a1copy.jpg

poje9
02-20-2009, 05:47 PM
THANK YOU! This helps so much! I realized I uploaded the wrong pic too... here is the latest one,
the mountain is moved down a little and the UFO is bigger. I also added a car to give the scale- I really like the highway idea too. Thanks! I will work on those suggestions and get an updated version soon. Thanks for beaing "mean" (although it wasn't). Honest opinions are the best!


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/Scene1a2.jpg

poje9
02-20-2009, 10:22 PM
Here's an update =)

Still thinking about adding the freeway/bridge- possibly in the path of destruction...

Thanks for all of the suggestions! Once this matte is finished I will be moving on the the other shot (which needs a lot of help too!).

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/Scene1a3.jpg

poje9
03-03-2009, 10:19 PM
Ok everyone, I'm getting close to the end of this matte painting, and I am going to move on soon the the next in the sequence so any last comments or critique on this one?

I changed the color of the lights from red to green because the green gives it a litttle more contrast than the red did, and it brightens up the scene a little bit.

Thanks!

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/poje9/green.jpg

lukedesmith
03-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Good work! removing the left side hill helped the composition a lot. i noticed you also added lots of city lights and brightened the sky which helped the whole painting be more readable. i like the tiny little car, it really does give ship scale. before you changed it i thought of the ship as being much smaller. however I'm not sure the scale matches your other shot anymore. i don't have much critique to offer this time, but now that it's reaching a completion phase i feel the impact crater doesn't quite hold up to the rest of the painting. maybe more texture? it just feels painted to me. it's a really nice painting and i enjoyed following you through the painting process. i can't wait for the next one!