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chrisskinner78
08-15-2008, 08:19 AM
Hi there!

I'm new to this forum and this is my first attempt at a matte painting. I'm calling it done as far as the art is involved but thought I'd post it here and hopefully get some critiques that might help when creating my next matte.

I didn't start with a landscape photograph as such but compiled a few images to create one. I'll upload some of the reference photos.

Personally I think my main critiscism with it is that it looks more illustrative than realistic.

The standard of work on this site has blown me away, hence uploading here to gain some advice and develop some new skills in matte painting.

So all C&C's welcome.

Cheers.
Chris.

[IMG]http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3330/csmatte01tn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3330/csmatte01tn0.ec2168c490.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=183&i=csmatte01tn0.jpg)[img]

chrisskinner78
08-15-2008, 08:26 AM
Here are the images used to create the matte above.

[IMG]http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5359/imagesused01li0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5359/imagesused01li0.cc5dd9b2b5.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=362&i=imagesused01li0.jpg)[img]

Madster
08-15-2008, 02:12 PM
The sunset in the background is shining on your scene at a 90 degree angle to your illumination of all your other objects...Except for the face and the rock in the foreground corners. They are both illuminated from almost directly above...

And the mountain in the background shows no directional illumination at all.

You are the reason this looks "illustrative." You have no signs of life, or a story to this. It's just a bunch of buildings in the middle of nowhere, as if a UFO dropped them like ballast. They are in near perfect condition, showing no sign of weathering, yet there are no roads, bridges, vehicles, anything...

The secret is the thought you put into the scene's details. No place with architecture is totally devoid of any life except plants. Show us.

~M

chrisskinner78
08-16-2008, 10:11 AM
Hey Madster!

Thanks for taking the time to give me some feedback. I'll bear everything you've said in mind for my next piece and hopefully it will be an improvement over this.

graphmac
08-16-2008, 11:30 AM
Yes, the lighting is coming from various angles so it looks more like an illustration.
One thing is getting your source images/renders to have a similar lighting like an overcast one (always helps me)
Also before you start, draw what you want to achieve on paper, or in a program like painter.
In terms of shape/scale, where do you want the viewers eye to go?

If the simple block shapes you are drawing begin to look pleasant, then the idea will translate to a painting.
Hope that helps.

NR.

NOCTURN8
08-17-2008, 06:49 AM
Hey there buddy! It's a real nice one.

chrisskinner78
08-17-2008, 10:25 AM
Hi graphmac! Cheers for the advice, yeah one of my weak points is that I jump straight in with the matte without much prep work :)

Hi Nocturn! You get about mate :) Are you having much luck with your underwater scene?

Madster
08-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Hi graphmac! Cheers for the advice, yeah one of my weak points is that I jump straight in with the matte without much prep work :)
So, will your next piece show your efforts to correct that weak point?

Pity you won't be making any adjustments to this piece.
It would be nice to see it finished out.
It's not really a "Work in Progress," if it never progresses...

~M