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rrische
01-08-2005, 08:43 PM
Here's a shot I worked on in 1991 for "Terminator 2: Judgment Day".
In the film, Sarah Connor has a recurring nightmare about the nuclear
holocaust she knows is coming in the near future. I was working at 4-Ward
Productions (a company headed by "Aliens" FX Supervisors Robert and
Dennis Skotak and producer Elaine Edford). In this shot, Jim Cameron
needed a "God's POV" angle of the entire city of Los Angeles being leveled
by the nuclear shockwave. Bob Skotak broke the shot down and decided
he wanted to use 2 matte paintings for the cityscape (one before and one
after the blast), a foreground miniature of an exploding house, and some
kind of effect that shows the city disintegrating as the shockwave passes.
He eventually decided to use CG for this effect (remember this was EARLY
in the history of CG). He hired the software developers at ElectricImage to
create an element of the buildings fragmenting as the wave progresses.

First, Bob commissioned an aerial photographer to shoot a high angle view
of downtown L.A from a helicopter. This photo was blown up to a 6 foot
enlargement and handed over to me. While the photographer had done
an OK job with the photo, the sun direction wasn't correct, and I had to
completely paint over the cityscape to put the light source in the upper
right, behind the buildings, as this was where ground zero was supposed to be.
I also needed to remove a number of buildings and shorten others, as
we needed a less cluttered view of the skyline. And the photo wasn't wide
enough to cover the Panavision frame, so I extended it out about 2 feet
on the left.
Next came the aftermath painting. Since the "after" view had to align
perfectly with the "before" view, I got a roll of clear, heavy duty plastic
and made an overlay that was in perfect registration with the before city.
Then, I brought in Richard Kilroy (a matte artist friend) and together we
completely painted over the scene with miles and miles of nuclear
devastation.

Once the "before" view of the city was completed, it was photographed and
sent to ElectricImage. They match-modeled the area of the city seen in the
shot, and wrote software to generate the radiating blast and debris element.

Then the shot was assembled on stage using beam-splitters to overlay
different elements on top of each other, and to wipe the before painting
to the after painting, one frame at a time. It took a team of seven about
15 hours to complete a single take.

This shot uses many different kinds of elements (matte paintings, models,
CG) but it's interesting to note that by themselves, these elements aren't
really that special. But combined in the composite, the shot is stunning.
I'm very proud to have had the opportunity to work on it.

Here are the matte paintings-

http://img131.exs.cx/img131/5813/no2paintings1xu.jpg

Here is the CG element created by ElectricImage-

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/6141/no2cg8ko.jpg

And here's the final composite-

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/7789/no2finalsmall6nh.jpg

B. Kachel
01-08-2005, 09:02 PM
When I think of T2, I think of the T-1000, and this shot. This is an awsome shot, and one of the best ever. I remeber seeing this shot as a kid and was pretty scared by it.

To me it was one of the moments that really made this film stand out, and contributed to why many people think T2 is the best terminator film of the three.

You also did work on T3, right?

Great work man
-Brandon Kachel

rrische
01-08-2005, 09:17 PM
Hi Brandon,
Thanks for the comments. Yes, I worked on T3 also. I painted the
matte painting of earth from space seen at the end of the film, with
mushroom clouds erupting in the atmosphere, kind of a reprise of
this shot, actually.

P.Nagle
01-09-2005, 04:36 PM
Awsome work i just watched T2 the other day and i remeber seeing it for the first time with my dad when i was younger and how cool it was to see L.A being blowen up.

awsome work...its always fun to hear how these older shots were done.

Thanks,
Pat Nagle

tharmine
01-10-2005, 12:53 AM
Hey, this is a great shot, memorable.
BUT, as long as i remember, i was always annoyed by the house on the foreground, which i think does not match the rest of the shot. But anyway, THIS IS AWSOME!

max4ever
01-10-2005, 04:01 AM
damn man, I was 13 when I saw T2 :roll:
I'm gettin' old... :?

smooth
01-10-2005, 09:15 AM
That scene was scary when I first saw it man. I was young. Now I see the behind the scenes making of and it's amazing. Sometimes the simplest way makes for the greatest effect. Do they still use Electric Image in some studios?
You mentioned the photographer getting the shot's lighting off. How often does this happen...the photographer not getting the shot you need and in turn you having to correct it? After all one can take several shots in case one doesn't turn out ok.
By the way are you also know as Richard Rische? Or is it just Rick? Cuz I was looking for more Peter Pan matte paintings to check out and on the credit list for the recent Peter Pan it states "Richard Rische". Just wondering...I really want to see more Peter Pan concept/matte works done for that film.
Also are you currently working at ILM? I was wondering how many you guys are in the matte dept.
Nice work by the way as always.

+smooth+
Montrealer.

rrische
01-10-2005, 11:40 AM
The matte artists used ElectricImage at ILM up until about a year or so ago.
But I don't think any of them do anymore. They have a whole bunch of
different tools now. I'm not there anymore, but the matte dept. is HUGE.
It grew to record size in order to do "Star Wars 3: Revenge of the Sith".
I did work on "Peter Pan", but I haven't seen it yet.

I was 30 when I worked on "T-2". YOU'RE OLD??? :shock:
About the photo being off, it happens. You just have to go with what
you get. There were several shots taken. We used the best one.

smooth
01-10-2005, 01:36 PM
hehe. naw i'm not old..just older in a sense. I'm 28. Just speaking in terms of letting the illusion make you think it's real. That's all.
So where do you work now? Freelance?
Thx for the reply.

+smooth+

rrische
01-10-2005, 02:43 PM
Yep, I freelance now.
Y'know, it always makes me uncomfortable to post old work.
Or even recent work. It feels like a job interview. When I look
at my own work, I only see the things I would've done differently.
Like in the "before" cityscape painting, I would've taken the backlighting
effect MUCH further. I'm my own worst critic.
But I've come to the conclusion that you can only do the best you can
do at any stage of your life. And, as an artist, objectivity is in very short
supply. Especially when you're working in a production enviroment. You
don't have the necessary time to reflect on what you're doing. You basically
get one pass at it, and you have to do it as well as you can. And then it's
burned onto film, and you have to live with it for the rest of your life.
It's just THERE.
On "Day After Tomorrow", I had the pleasure of working with Michael
Pangrazio. I'm an enormous fan of his work. Who isn't? It never occured
to me to ask him about this subject. Why would it? There's nothing "wrong"
with his paintings, right? But I really wonder what he thinks of his own
paintings....
For my own survival, I had to realize that what I do is never finished,
and certainly never perfect. Success isn't defined by making MYSELF
happy, but in making the client happy. Matte painting is a product after
all. The good news is that knowing you could do it better is a good thing.
It means you WILL do it better next time.

End of sermon.
Reverend Rick

Tchook
01-11-2005, 01:44 AM
Niice sermon reverend, you are a wise man.
T2 was a real knockout for me.
This is one of the movie that make me want to work in special effect.
I remember going to the theater again and again trying to understand "How they did it?"

Thx again for sharing

smooth
01-11-2005, 12:20 PM
I definatly understand what you mean as being your own worst critic. I am too. in fact...I'll never be fully satisfied with any completed work of mine. All I see are things that can be better. in fact I havn't posted any work yet because I am anal on making it better. Someday soon I will. I guess success is defined on doing what you love and getting paid for it. Not what the final result will be...so it's the journey..not the destination. Cuz we all know it's the clients decision to have somethine a certain way.
I'd like to see some work online of Michael Pangrazio's but I can't seem to find anything. Can you post a link? How about a website for yourself? I'm surprised at how many pro matte painters don't have a website. It's all about communicating the art. :) Uesegi (spelling?) is also another one I'm looking for online.
I used to have one but it seems it's been hijacked by some corp. until I get a decent amount of new work done I'll hold off on it.

Another question I wanted to ask you. now that you freelance...Do you purchase your own photo's for integrating into your matte's? Or does the studio have thier own accounts/ref materials? How does that work for you?
Reason being I find soo many great photos on the usuall stock photo companies but it's pretty expensive. As a result I try searching the net...which isn't the same as we all know. lol In the meantime If I can't seem to find the photo I need...I paint it from scratch. Which in a way is a good thing to develope the painting skills.

+smooth+

SOE digital
06-24-2005, 09:34 AM
I painted the matte painting of earth from space seen at the end of the film, with mushroom clouds erupting in the atmosphere

woah. I remember seeing those shots in the cinema and just thinking how hauntingly beautifull that shot was...and to think I'm 'speaking' to the person who created it.
Seriously mate, that is one of my favourite VFX shots ever.

joberle
07-11-2005, 02:19 PM
Rick Rische you are a true legend, and an inspiration.

Wizdoc
10-24-2005, 12:17 AM
This is the shot that made me want to dig deeper into how movies are made. It made quite an impression into my then 12-year-old mind when I saw it in the theatre (when I snuck in to see the movie ;) ). The other two cool shots of the movie are the truck jumping into the storm drain and the metal foot crushing the skull in the beginning, but they don't quite have the same visceral power as that total destruction of Los Angeles.

I've watched that sequence a countless times on my VHS (and later on DVD), and it's impeccable. I've always been under the impression that it's either some complex aerial shot or some ultra-detailed miniature city that was destroyed. I never realized it was made with matte paintings. Whoa.

And it's still the best-looking city destruction sequence put on film.

rrische
10-24-2005, 11:33 AM
Just wanted to say thanks again for all the nice comments!
It's very cool to have worked on something that made such
an impact.

cthunig
10-31-2005, 10:59 AM
What a gem this thread is! Lovely to get to see some of the "older" pieces on here as well- and thanks for the very detailed insight into how it was made! It remains an absolutely stunning shot!

tyson859
11-01-2005, 07:25 AM
Yeah, T2 still remains my favorite movie. It has awsome special effects for its time. I always wandered how the effects were made, if only I knew sooner... matte painting!... I woulda started a long time ago :)

Good Job man!!!
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