Taking Suggestions for the Fall 07 mp.org challenge.

[RiKToR]

Zboo's challenge is winding down (I think) and I figure its time to pop the question... what do we do next. Im leaning on the side of set extension, but Im a big fan of how everlites history musuem panned out on cgtalk and that a section was made for 3d stuff. I really would like to try out stuff with plate photography.

[Justin Atkinson]

I'm all for a new challenge, gives the forum a little bit of community spirit!

[RiKToR]

A suggestion then of you would like to see?

[Justin Atkinson]

What about some invisible work. I'll see if the studio can provide a decent plate, can't guarantee, but invisible work is a pretty good challenge, rather than another fantasy situation.

[RiKToR]

Ive got a plate that I found in the Nuke tutorial kit when you download from the foundry it looks like a good set extension opportunity. But if you can get a real plate I would be happy... especialy if its moving :wink:

[Suirebit]

invisible (background) mp sounds great....

[Justin Atkinson]

I have found 2 potential candidates for extension/removal projection whatever.

HD footage of a demolition site we shot. Each shot is hand held so some tracking is needed but they are both open to invisible or even fantasy work.. They look boring but thats a challenge isn't it?

You could even paint the guys out of the second plate and totally change it..

:)

http://www.justinatkinson.co.uk/img/plate1.jpg
http://www.justinatkinson.co.uk/img/plate2.jpg

[graphmac]

Can we do both? I'd like to do one but I'm not keen on doing invisible stuff on my days off work. A bit of the fantastic is required to keep me up late at night.
What about a subtle approach, make something in the shot unbelievable but keep it looking realistic.


I will be posting my work for this one, but I'm behind a firewall at a games company also very busy all the time and don't have the internet at home - yet...

[RiKToR]

I indeed am game for second image.

[mordecaidesign]

I am game for the second image as well...the first image could use a sky replacement and maybe a large skyscraper behind it but otherwise there's not alot to do with it.

I'm going to just do a painting of the first image but if you could also post a 4 second clip of the first shot that would be great for everyone who is trying to learn tracking, rotoscope, and compositing. (DANG I WISH I HAD SHAKE AND PFMATCH)

I think the challenge should be very clear on the fact that this needs to be a totally invisible shot and you shouldn't be able to tell that the other elements don't actually exist.

[Brandon]

i really like the second image

[darvinkmanwah]

I'm am completely up for this guys..I wanna get into it right now...lol...wicked sutff...

[emptyslot]

even i am intressted :D

well kinda like the second one but the first one is nice because you can play with it quite alot i think (challenge)

[RQuack]

yeah either of those pics are great. got my imagination working already. absolutely up for a challenge. :D

[darvinkmanwah]

so when do we start mates...I'm already warming up CS3 and Vue to take it on...

[Timmay]

I'd do this. Invisible work though. Are these plates moving footage? Alot of challenges work from still but matte work usually involves working from a footage plate. I would love to do that.

[Justin Atkinson]

OK.. seems like you're all in for this. Both plates are moving ( handheld).
My parents are here for the weekend so I'll pick this up next week, and sort the footage out..


The first shot actually pans down to reveal a derelict site with moving diggers and stuff.


All the best

Justin

[Leopoldo]

Cool, I'd love to give this a go even it if it would be my first… :)

[Brandon]

i really like the idea of these informal challenges. There is so much to be learned from each other on these.

[B. Kachel]

I like the second one as well. I think this is a very good exercise to test your skills as a matte painter. Getting a plate like this to work from has a lot of potential. Not to mention it is a typical shot a director would like you to spice up.

Lets do it!

[RiKToR]

Im up for moving plates if possible but a still is fine for me, I say if we can make it available for those who have the tools to play around with it. I can also offer Boujou track of whatever shot we do in whatever 3d app or compositor it supports. I think this piece is a good shot to put on a reel.

[RiKToR]

I had an idea and you can check it out over here... http://www.mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22238#22238

[Justin Atkinson]

I have steadied the plates, and will matchmove them for camera data.
They are both in tiff sequences, but quite large. I can put them somewhere to download soon but I'll make the first and last frame available first, that way people can get started and work on a moving plate after.


If everyone is still up for this I can post them, along with a few simple requirements that will add an extra challenge and direction.

Nice idea Cliff, not sure I have the time personally.

[B. Kachel]

Even though I am quite busy with a few different projects, I love the plates and I will try and get something done.

[mordecaidesign]

Sorry Brandon Kachel, but you're exempt from the challenge. You can't compete.

CUZ YOUR INVISIBLE STUFF IS TOO DAMN GOOD. :D

j/k. you can compete of course. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Btw... I started working on this the first day and will post my progress when I am back from vacation on Tuesday.

Justin, I actually suggest that you just post the raw tiff files somewhere that aren't even steadied. I think it would be good for alot of us to get some experience with steadying, tracking, and color grading.

Maybe we can pool money together via paypal to buy a prize for best work?