First try: Glenbuchat Castle, Scotland

[Milos Fehir]

Found this castle out on the net and thought I'd give it a try. I don't feel I'm done. I'll go on about fixing the moments for better blending, lightning works etc. Sp it's still WIP, I hope thats OK. I'm new here. I'd really love feedback on how I can improve. Final goal is to project this into a 3D enviroment.

Matte painting
http://www.animate.se/download.php?id=4744

Original photo
http://www.electricscotland.com/historic/pics/Glenbuchat%20Castle.jpg

[Fredric]

Hello Milos Fehir
sorry very ugly, is necessary worked one can more and to look at work it of the others.
still worked before shown your image.
for your good! Sorry
:D
I am on you can better do :idea:
Sorry for my bad english

[Milos Fehir]

Ok, erm taht was a bit hard to digest..not the critique. I'm lpeased that it brought out at least something..even if it is a felling of lousiness. I'll work more before showing updates. I get what you are saying. The thing is, I know HOW to do things..just not what things to do..if you catch my drift. Yeah... :D

[Fredric]

:D Hello Milos Fehir

I did'nt want to be hard, but hard critics often make advance the work.

Ps: in the mass...divers
www.tutorialized.com (http://www.tutorialized.com)

[Milos Fehir]

Nono! Be hard by all means. It's totally OK! Thanx for the site. One more to add to the resource file. :D

[Milos Fehir]

Made a workaround. Still crappy but at least not as much...


http://www.animate.se/files/painting_216.jpg

[Fredric]

:)
well better!
Think of the shadows. And of the photo of better quality... :?
work the tutorials. :idea:

Sorry for my bad English :!:

[rrische]

:)

Sorry for my bad English :!:

All you non-english speaking posters should never apologize for your English.
It's impressive enough that you know 2 (or more)
languages at all. YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR ME SPEAK FRENCH!

[Fredric]

:)

Sorry for my bad English :!:YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR ME SPEAK FRENCH!

I do not want, NOT THAT!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
:D

[Muni]

i want to hear it

[rrische]

Voulez vous......avec moi....sur le table....vous...vo..

Merci me Bleh

[ChristianM]

Hey Rick, your French is excellent, have you lived in France before ? Just kidding.
By the way, what translator did you use ? Babel Fish ?

[rrische]

I use Microsoft's Lady Marmalade. v.1.6

[Fredric]

Voulez vous......avec moi....sur le table....vous...vo..

Merci me Bleh

:lol: C'est pas ça! ca serait plutot:

Voullez vous "couchez" avec moi ce soir...Voullez vous...

Couchez n'est pas vulgaire on peut le dire, c'est sans PROBLEME! (not vulgar in french)

[rrische]

Yeah. like HE said! :shock:

[Fredric]

1)
small French tutorial:
Couchez= Fu.. in English...
:shock: 8) :lol:

[rrische]

Well, I wouldn't know anything about THAT. I work in computer graphiques.... :oops:

[Fredric]

8)
sweet moment of relaxation!

[Milos Fehir]

...guys...erm...CAn we stick to the subject? Yes? Good...

Yes...its bad photo quality. Thats what I get for not taking pictures myself...haha. I did go and search for as high res as possible. The hill has a very nice resolution to it..the moutains..don't. I'll work those tutorials. Merci!

[rrische]

Here's what I see....

Let's start with your castle picture. I would've passed this up immediately,
based solely on the lighting- this is the flattest, most unexciting lighting
possible. I would be forced to do major reconstructive surgery on this
picture before I could even start to work with it.
Let's look at your lighting scheme in your painting. You're setting the moon
in the background, which is cool and dramatic. But it's important to be
aware that when you place your light source within the frame, that most
everything else will be nearly silhouetted against it. You can't have your
light source, and "eat it" too, so to speak. Now backlighting is great. Just
be aware that the lighting on the other objects shouldn't reveal much
detail, and you'll really have to play up edge lighting, on the castle
especially, but also on the mountains as well. the grass seems to be frontlit
and flat. Maybe you could play the grass in near-total darkness, but create
a subtle pooling of light up near the castle, to draw your attention to it.
Have that lighting make sense with the location of the moon.
About the clouds, see if you can't find some stills of clouds rimlit by the
sun and study how bright and hot the edges of the clouds are when they're
in front of the light. In the legends gallery, you'll see a matte painting
from "The Birds" where the artist has the sun behind some clouds. Look
at how bright those edges are!
Moonlight is the same, but it's also different. To see some GREAT moody
castles with full moons and clouds, see "Bram Stoker's Dracula". Also
the night shots of Naboo Palace in SW1: The Phantom Menace". Get some
more detail in the sky too.

These things would help.

[Milos Fehir]

Spanking good tips. Thank you very much. I'll see what I can come up with =0)

[Fredric]

The boss speaks! Thus the boss speaks...
:idea: you cannot have better Milos Fehir !
:)

[Milos Fehir]

I have tried applying the tips given to the painting. And I must say that the immidiate result is astoundingly better, at least in my eyes. I lighted up the edges where I imagined the lightning would falla and I also stirred and scattered the clouds to give a better opening to the moon, wich in turn became a bit brighter then before. I don't think I can do much about the pixelation as far as this image goes. But I'm starting to get the basic principles of what I have to think about a bit better. I'll play more with this till I'm tired and then move on to an other piece. Practice makes parfect :D

http://www.animate.se/files/painting_843.jpg

[rrische]

This is much better! Now that you've come this far, you could play
with the atmosphere next. Since there is a lot of light scattering in
the sky, try adding some haze in the background mountain ranges.
Remember that the further in the background an object is, the more
atmosphere it should have. This will help separate the castle from
the mountains better too.

[Milos Fehir]

Good idea! Been meaning to add some fogginess tomorrow. The haze thing could be just what I need! Thanx for all the help!

[Milos Fehir]

Here's my first attempt at projecting a painting onto 3D geometry. Its extremly basic. Being as the painting has little depth the camera movement cant be very dramatic. I think I do go in a bit too far as well. I'll add the fog in the painting later on today and then call it quits for this one. I'm quite happy with it since its the first one I ever made. Cheers!


http://www.animate.se/download.php?id=4779

[Fuzz]

Aaaargh, High school flashbacks.. Noooooooo

(In reference to all the French lessons)

[Milos Fehir]

Thats nice...but this isn't a french lesson discussion is it?