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Xdreamer79
05-27-2006, 09:44 AM
Okay guys. I spent a long time searching istockphoto for good resource photographs. I bought several shots about boston but wasn't satisfied with the images so I decided to take this one :-]

Here you can see the wip right now. I am working on cloning the sea on the right bottom corner. Didn't spent that much time for now but its a start I think.

Working res: 2711*1944@300dpi

Not quite sure what I can place on the right lack of the image? Any suggestions guys?

Reference:
http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_ref.jpg



http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip1.jpg[/img]

Xdreamer79
05-27-2006, 11:22 AM
Okay. I did the bridge a bit longer and reworked on the sky. I really want to give that image a darky, awefull mood so I have a lot of work to do I guess :-]

http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip2.jpg

Timmay
05-27-2006, 12:06 PM
Your lighting is wrong. Your sun is behind the buildings but the fronts of the buildings are lit. They should be silouhetted.

Speculart
05-28-2006, 09:35 AM
If you take that sun out and add some lighting to those clouds you could be on to a real winner there, with the sun shining dramaticly through a gap in the clouds off camera left. Alternatively just use other clouds with the low sun coming from that side it probably is less hassle than lighting them. Whatever you do you need to solve it before you start moving into anything else because all the other colours in the piece are going to have to match, including the smoke clouds. Keep at itthe flames are looking cool and I am loving the mood.

Xdreamer79
05-29-2006, 08:49 AM
Thanks guys. I am new to this kind of work so I really appreciate your crits. I didn't even noticed that the lighting is wrong in my first try (I surely wouldn't forget that anymore *gg*).

I am already working on a more dark and mysterious sky but its hard without any painting skills...

Will let you uptodate, thanks again!

Xdreamer79
05-29-2006, 06:48 PM
http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip3.jpg

To overloaded?

Ricardo Garces
05-29-2006, 09:08 PM
Hi X.

The briefing was about zombies, that destroyed Boston, not a lightning storm :)

I have never used a lightning in one of my works, and that is because I think of it has very special. You should not spend it in any work at all. Some natural effects are very amazing and can do all the difference in a painting. Spending one of the most interesting effect, on a painting that has nothing to do with it, is a loss of good material, that you can use elsewhere.

Some natural effects are so beutiful that we should make a painting just for them. Snow, thunderstorms, vulcano eruptions, etc.

Regarding the light you still haven't got the grip of it. Look at the buildings light intensity and direction. The light is coming from your lower left corner. Yet the clouds are lit with some kind of back lighting. It is not correct. If the light is in back of the camera, your scene should be lighted equally, if it's facing the camera, you can have lighted spots, but it is also mandatory to have some silhoueting somewhere.

Hope I made myself clear enough, it's hard to explain without showing you.

Anyway, I like the fires. Good proportion, good lighting color on them.

Keep it up!

Xdreamer79
05-30-2006, 07:28 AM
Hi andy

First thanks for your comment. I thought it could be a nice little sideeffect this lightning but as more as I look on it I dislike it :-/ I took it already out and changed the sky. I have massive problems with the lighting and painting of the sky so perhaps if someone got time for a small overpainting I would that highly appreciate.

Changed the light of the city as the sky. Opinions?

http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip4.jpg

Speculart
05-30-2006, 09:07 AM
I think thats looking really good. The light seems to be working now. The sky is a little undramatic but for some reason I kind of like that. It will look good with a pall of feelthy smoke running along just above ground level from the fires. The big smoke cloud has a funny light (orange from all over) but thats fixable, perhaps it could extend back, getting smaller as it dissapears middle right.
Its missing a compositional element in the middle left I think, maybe a bigger thing on fire could do it.

dstipes
05-30-2006, 12:17 PM
Look at the 9-11 photos on line. Building fires create huge amounts of smoke. I don't think the smoke on the right would dissipate so quickly.

Night / twiligt fires project a lot of light on surrounding buildings, too. Might consider light effects about the foreground / waterfront fires.

You work fast. Lookin' good!

BTW, This is a cool challenge! Might give this to my students to do. :wink:

David

Noel B
06-01-2006, 03:44 PM
Also the fire would light the sky a bit. Other wise I love the this version the best especialy now that the lighting is right.

RiKToR
06-01-2006, 06:10 PM
Also the fire would light the sky a bit. Other wise I love the this version the best especialy now that the lighting is right.

It would create a glow in the air but would not light the those clouds they are to high. The buildings however would have a lot of orange bounce and reflection light especially around the base of the building.

Xdreamer79
06-03-2006, 05:57 PM
http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip5.jpg

How's about this one? Changed sky, atmosphere and added a smaller city in the background.

RiKToR
06-04-2006, 05:47 PM
A+ on the glowing flames, that is exactly what they should look like. The sky is good as well atmospheric depth. The buildings should have glow roughly the same color / glow as the flames in sporadic locations to show reflection. More smoke is needed as well and the one plume on the left needs to continue instead of disappering behind the building.

Xdreamer79
06-04-2006, 06:03 PM
Thank you. Will try to do my best.

Xdreamer79
06-05-2006, 12:11 PM
Slowly getting there what I had in my mind...



http://www.xdreams.ch/images/forums/matte/boston_contest_wip6.jpg