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02-28-2006, 06:49 AM
Hi, this is my first post. The website is awesome, I must admit and I'd like to let you see two pictures I'm working on during my free time.



Of course, critics are welcome! :D

Edit: I've renamed the thread cause it's more specific about the first matte.

03-04-2006, 02:50 AM
Hi there, I'm going further with the first matte.
What do you think? Is there something to be fixed?


03-04-2006, 07:53 AM
Hey Echoes,
I like the direction of these. You've established nice atmosphere
in both. I feel the scale of the lighthouse is better as seen
in your first post. Regarding texturing (and there are folks that might
differ in opinion on this), but the first image you posted is reading better
than the update. In the update you've added some interesting ideas &
details, but I feel it's starting to get a little distracting. Hope this is
useful feedback. Keep it up!

Dream Artisan
03-04-2006, 10:37 AM
I think you are going in the right direction--nice work on your piece overall. I agree with Adam, I think the first version is much better composed. But if you want to go in this new direction: I would say the branches are very distracting at left now unless they have a reason for being there (i.e. live plate composite)--the dark rock is enough to frame the left side of your painting. But the dark branches on light sky create the brightest focal point Is that the focal point? Or is it the lighthouse? If so, then to me, the pointy rocks in the center of the image (middleground) are now drawing my attention away from the lighthouse (which is part of the background). With this new middleground, I want to see some kind of structure where my eye wants to go (pointy rocks?). Also, the lighthouse looks like it's about to fall off the cliff. I would scoot it in a little to reduce some of that visual tension, or place it on the land further down near to the water--I don't know if a lighthouse would be placed so high up like that where a ship might not see it in a heavy fog layer. Please show us any of your revsions.

03-05-2006, 08:18 AM
tank you for the replies!
I must agree with you when you say that the last picture doesn't have a clear focal point, I added detail without keeping an eye on this factor.

Even the scale of the elements (trees, lighthouse) it's a bit odd, so I thought to modify the picture replacing the lighthouse with a castle.
It will probably be bigger than this (I will add some towers) and it will be enlighted in a different way... just to bring attention onto it.

I missed to say that this matte is not for a production, just to make practice :D


Dream Artisan
03-05-2006, 12:49 PM
I think the castle disappears into the scene. It's height is the same as the trees and the color/value of the rock. The values make it more of a background element. My eye wants to go to where the pointy rocks are, and is also where your path points to (the middleground).

03-07-2006, 05:01 AM
I've done the mistake of not planning at the beginning the exact look of the scene so now I'm going on through experiments.


What do you think about them? In my opinion the secondo one could be good, if the sky was not so cheesy :D
I think that if I work on it some time I can get a nice result. The first one doesn't stress the presence of the castle.

Dream Artisan
03-07-2006, 08:11 AM
Ok, now move the castle to the right to replace those pointy rocks (which seem to mimic the silhouette of the rocks).

03-08-2006, 01:28 AM
do you mean something like this?


I'm quite happy with this one, I think that if I add complexity to the castle and to the environment it won't be very bad :)

Thank you for the support and the critics, you are really helping me. :)

03-08-2006, 04:21 AM
It's looking great, but the rocks in the top right corner don't look right. I think the perspective could be off a bit? They appear to be slanting a bit too much to the right on the left side.

I also liked the cliff face on the left in the earlier versions. But yeah, maybe without the branches.

03-08-2006, 10:05 AM
Another update: I've fixed the lighting of the rockes near the water and adjusted something here and there.


Dream Artisan
03-08-2006, 05:54 PM
While the rocks are less distracting, it's still not quite there. The castle is still feeling like a background element with your use of atmospheric perspective. Your rocks on the right say 'middleground' with their values and saturation of color. If you brought the castle forward it really would be more effective.

03-09-2006, 02:31 AM
I understand what you are saying... let's see if this is better for you.
I cannot move the whole castle where the pointy rocks were, so I think this solution might solve the problem.


03-13-2006, 05:45 AM
Another update...